The thing is that I couldn't just pick one quote for the initial and inaugeral Fun with Fundies, so here's is the number two pick for this week. This comes from a conversation that I had with a woman on Myspace, (to whom I still speak mind you) who seemed very intelligent scientifically. I met her on Sam Harris' page, responding to a blog of his in protest, to which I came to Sam's rescue. I'm sure the whole thing fell under his radar, but who cares? This is a combination of two messages I recieved from her in the middle of this incredible, intelligent conversation, where I realized that I was actually talking to someone who was, indeed, Bat-Shit Crazy!
This week's winner is...
Honey Sweets from www.myspace.com, who said the following:
"well then all this is just doing research and a refining of issues and concepts.
'Many people of more theistic nature tend to take evolution..' well... to be blunt, many people don't know how to read either. and i have my own issues with the whole of creation..
first of all for the most part everything ive heard points to any and all of the "gods" as being extraterrestrials. and no i am not referring the nazi's which fled to the south pole who have been reported to have pretended to be extraterrestrials.
the mere fact that the torah clearly states that 'God' is the God of the 'gods', is rather disconcerting. that however does not mean that when compared to me that He would not certainly be worthy of the title.
there a lot going on around here.. science can't explain it all because its repressed for one thing and its at least 500000 years behind the science of the 'gods'.
Christ apparently could rearrange matter. now if you want to hear of the real mysteries consider for a moment that Christ's blood line was pure as it seems to be... a direct descendant of Adam. Adam who was not a hybrid mutation human but a specifically genetically engineered human with uncommon genetic traits and no genetic errors.
the reasoning would have to be that genetic code was NECESSARY to produce a Christ. without it there would not be one. the simplest reason for the necessity is that Christ body would have physical (cellular) properties that normal humans would not. The clearly dormant genes could be activated by specific and induced conditions and would result in a inhuman life form that had almost nothing in common with "humans". as in being born as a immortal first and foremost. Christ did not die on the cross for he could not die, the biological functions may have ceased to the casual observer but at the cellular level he was still alive or in the alternative merely inactive. His life appeared to have ceased because his consciousness was temporarily elsewhere. he commanded it to leave his 'flesh'.
like some immortals of fantasy.. nothing less than instantaneous and complete cellular destruction could stop His human form.
what kind of questions does that raise???? and yes asking those kinds of questions does make me a heretic.
if we were talking about botany id be much more receptive to that sort of proposition but we are not.
plants may cross pollinate and be exposed to various conditions which less successful variants might phase out, dormant genetic traits my be more predisposed in certain conditions.
the part you seem to be missing is that adaptation is more like recombination than progression, evolution.
modern humans are a clear progression... the single instance of it. thats mathematically impossible. evolution nor mutation explains racial groups. genetic engineering and real world testing does.
any defense to that point is merely a red herring argument at best.
pantheism... currently it seems as if almost true. But i would never be able to discern the whole truth in this body.. which is why i loathe it.
There are actually two wars fought between Satan and God. The first war in heaven resulted in Satan losing his residence in heaven but he still had visitation rights. He then abused those in order to gear up for another war.
The first war probably occurred between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 The Hebew word for was- hayah (haw-yaw) was not intended as a copula or mere connector between earth and void but literally meant that the earth became void. While it beyond the scope of this article to discuss in detail the gap between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 the text indicates here that the heavens and the earth were created and then subjected to catastrophic situation and then the recreation began in Gen 1:2. This situation was caused by the first war between Satan and God holy angels
Gen 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (2) And the earth wasH1961 without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
H1961
haw-yaw'
A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): - beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.
Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries
This first war in heaven ended quite early with Satan getting thrown down to the earth. It was this event that the Lord Jesus was referring to when he said He saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven
Luk 10:17-19 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. (18) And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. (19) Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
Congrats, Honey Sweets, you are surely Bat-Shit Crazy! Keep smiling everyone, because there is no hell.
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